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Adventist Review Announces it Will Open its Pages to the Ordination Debate
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Submitted: Sep 15, 2012
By AT News Team


Bill Knott, editor of the Adventist Review, announced in an editorial published in the current issue (dated September 13) that the leading journal of the Seventh-day Adventist denomination will “in coming weeks” publish “articles … interviews, letters, features and editorials” about “the appropriateness of ordaining women to gospel ministry and the process to follow in making that decision.” This is surprising because since the early 1990s, the magazine has published nothing on the topic.
 
“The church is founded, not on unanimity—and certainly not on uniformity—but on the covenant created by divinely given love and goodwill,” the editor asserted. He cited a quote he has remembered for 35 years from a college professor; “If two people are always agreeing, one of them is not necessary.” And he referenced Matthew 18, stating that “Jesus also expects at least some disagreements among us,” His followers.
 
Knott cited the fact that in the early history of the denomination his periodical often published materials that disagreed with each other, a practice more carefully controlled in recent decades. “This journal, now 163 years old, was the vital bulletin board of ideas and visions around which the first generation of Sabbathkeeping Adventists gathered to learn how to talk and live with each other.”
 
This is an unexpected development to all the observers that Adventist Today has contacted. Many are dubious about how open and balanced the materials may be. After all, the journal is published by the General Conference and the GC president is chairman of its board. “It is unlikely that this decision was made entirely independently by the editor,” a veteran church administrator told Adventist Today.
 
Despite the surprise and skepticism, advocates of removing gender discrimination in ordination welcomed the announcement. Every Bible study conducted by Adventists on this topic at the level of quality that the Adventist Review typically publishes has resulted in agreement that Scripture does not prohibit extending ordination to qualified women.
 
Knott’s editorial is careful not to wish for too much. “I’m praying that what we read and ponder here in the days ahead will improve the quality of our conversation and our respect for those who disagree with us,” the piece ends. He does not say if he also prays for a solution that would permit the denomination to bring closure to the ordination debate and move beyond it.
 

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Kevin Riley
2012-09-18 12:46 AM

It will be interesting to see the quality of the articles, etc posted.  There are good arguments put forward by both sides, but they are not always the arguments that are popular with either side.


Stephen Ferguson
2012-09-19 1:40 AM

This certainly shows a shift in strategy at least. It appears the GC thinks it can't keep a lid on the whole issue any more, so it needs to address the issue 'in the open' through active engagement.

David Barr
2012-09-19 10:59 PM

If memory serves the "print" subscription base of the AR is +/- 30,000 in a membership of +/- 1,000,000 in NAD and +/- 17,000,000 world wide.

It would be useful to know what the "online paid" subscription numbers are for "full access".

If one does the math of the "print" subscribers the AR requires "subsidies" for the AR emplyoees to have a job.

Short version nobody reads it.

Edwin A. Schwisow
2012-09-19 11:30 PM

The Adventist Review could reverse much of its circulation decline and wield far more influence, today, if it rejected the "public relations" motif of its editorial policy and encouraged articles and dialogue by, for, and about people who may have at least the hint of heterodox views on pivotal matters. Adventist Today provides an excellent adjunct to the church's editorial offerings by providing a place for members, former members, and incoming members to probe the depth of available thinking on a plethora of topics rarely if ever broached by Adventist-owned publications, because of the fear that these topics, once opened, could be seen as managerially messy and administratively distracting. This certainly was not the case 140 years ago when the Review and Herald and other publications were in their infancy. These papers were eagerly awaited weekly in the mail, in part because of the lively give and take on controversial matters. It appears that current administrative policy of the church holds that the church has now effectively accumulated and codified all truth, and thus our role is to review and re-review these truths until  Jesus returns. I perceive no indication in any writings of the church fathers and mothers to indicate that Adventist doctrine will go through unchanged to the end of time. Each generation must study, redefine, and reinterpret the essence of Christianity in the Adventist tradition for itself, else the creatives and achievers will become bored and uninvolved, and the church will suffer a severe lay leadership crisis. Pastors today often bewail the inactivity and pew-stuck backsides of their members. Could it be that church as we practice it today automatically siphons off all that "messy cream" and leaves primarily the skim milk to calorically energize the promulgation of the gospel to the world? 

The fear of corporate disunity needs to relax in the church; we need not fear that which will enable and energize us spiritually and move the church forward. There's nothing like good, honest, give-and-take discussions to bring unity in diversity, as we experience it at AT.
 

Tapiwa Mushaninga
2012-09-20 4:28 AM

I disagree to some extent not all change is good change if you read your bible some of, in fact most of it is apostacy. The bible in some instances also admonishes people to seek the old paths. Atoday is a place for people of the progressive persuasion. I have never seen any one who undermines core adventism being kicked off the site for even more greivious actions than their conservative counterparts so to parade Atoday as neutral is disingenuous and misleading. It definately is not a neutral place

Timo Onjukka
2012-09-20 8:58 AM

Agreed, Tap, it is not a place a place of eutrality at all. Vociferous the neo-conservatives who wish to disallow any semblance of neutrality, and desire force a cookie-cutter throwback to some image of a church static (that never even existed as it is touted).

 

No, truth, and faith are far bigger than the fear-gripped conspiracies, and love far more inclusive. 

How did that little lady put it, "we are not a church static, but a progressive truth marching forward",

a ragtag little band on a steep incline consumed with love and encouragement to each other to keep soldiering forward. (Sorry, perhaps I am not permitted to paraphrase "her"? ;~)


Barry Wecker
2012-09-21 5:44 PM

Tapiwa,
You are right to a degree--not all new ideas are good.  Some do indeed lead us away from an intimate relationship with our God and a correct understanding of His character.  However, on the other hand, those who cling tenaciously to all the traditional precepts and to orthodox ideas were addressed by no other than Jesus in the seven woes of Matthew 23-- some of the most severe reprimands that Jesus ever gave.  Also in the parable of the lost sons, the parable was given to the scribes, Pharisees and church leaders to tenaciously held on to orthodox ideas.  They had just reprimanded Jesus for associating with sinners and people with unorthodox ideas.  In the story, the elder brother was just as lost as the younger brother had been, but worse yet, he did not recognize his lostness and he refused to come into the celebration feast that his father had given.  The elder son was lost because of his clinging to orthodoxy.  So Tapiwa, failure to grow in our understanding of God and rejecting present truth, can be as dangerous and apostasy.

22oct1844
2012-09-20 5:42 AM

The touting and bias is understandable for those from the inner circle; but outsiders not from this groupthink will see it differently.  I agree with T. Mushaninga on this one – I also feel that the neutrality referred to is quite far left of neutral.

Some may not have noticed but the church has matured from the 140 years ago controversial approach to matters.  There’s no need to resort to this approach in dealing with our major doctrinal and administrative positions as our church has adequate policies and structures in place for these matters to be addressed.  President Ted Wilson has indicated that we use this structured approach and called for discussion on this and further admonishes partisans not to make rushed decisions and take rash drastic actions without proper consultation and due process.  I think that this approach is quite progressive in that the rather retrogressive mudslinging approach of the past, which some have opted for on open public platforms, isn’t necessary, dignified and warranted, especially when we do have proper avenues for this in place.  Those who may be accustomed to having their own way, even in religious matters, are prone to take the opposite approach and jump the gun.

I think the necessary caution and circumspect actions of the GC and their official bodies together with our President works in the best interests of our world church.  (There is a bigger picture you know).  Ted Wilson’s prudent handling of this matter is what is keeping this together and greatly assisting in damage control.  Imagine if one of those trigger happy Union Conference guys were in charge.  God forbid.

John McLarty
2012-09-21 3:01 PM

30,000 paid subscriptions to the Adventist Review? How current is that figure? I think the actual number is quite a bit lower. I would welcome an official statement of paid individual subscriptions.

An additional factor to consider: I strongly suspect the readership of the Adventist Review has a median age similar to Adventist Today and Spectrum: 70+. Only a tiny fraction of those who subscribe to the Review are under 60.

CB
2012-09-21 5:08 PM

I don't understand why the Adventist church is discussing this matter when in the 19th Century the church has established a policy to ordain men and women and one of the founders of the church, a woman was ordained herself? This doesn't make sense. As I understand the Adventist church has studied this topic for decades now and couldn't find anything biblical against ordination, maybe because the status of women is cultural, and men in many of these cultures do not want to loose their power. Heaven help us if men would have to treat women equally


Truth Seeker
2012-09-21 9:02 PM

"The fear of corporate disunity needs to relax in the church; we need not fear that which will enable and energize us spiritually and move the church forward."

Ed, because of space that's all I quoted. You do have the gift for spin I have to say. And I see little or nothing constructive that AToday has contributed to this area. And I hope you realize that there are still 7000 in Adventism who will not bow to the sophistries of liberalism.

Ervin Taylor
2012-09-23 1:52 PM

"There are still 7000 in Adventism who will not bow to the sophistries of liberalism."  Oh my,. "sophistries of liberalism!." How poetic.  There are 10s of thousands of silent reasonable Adventists who will not bow to the sophistries of that old serpent fundamenatlism. Sorry that's not as poetic, but it is more truthful.  

Edwin A. Schwisow
2012-09-23 3:38 PM

Is not "spinning" in the Christian sense the ability to frame an issue, create a narrative, and set the stage for conviction by the Truth? Thanks, Truth Seeker, for your gracious but wholly undeserved compliment....

Timo Onjukka
2012-09-24 5:59 AM

Fortunately TS, there is still room for the 137,000 diverse men and women who are unbowed the anti-WO sledge ;~). Consensus is seldom indicative of truth in the direct sense; scripture oft highlights "the narrow gate/path", but you seem to  make unfounded claim of having consensus as evidence. Truth requires but a conscience and a consensus of one. The radical Jesus surely shattered every single divisive stereotype, label, myth, oh, and even his twelve homeys couldn't agree. Why, even eating with a woman, of some besmirched repute perched on a well of betrothal, and a SAMARIAN, even, for heavens sake. Then he sent her off as the first phenom evangelist; and his 12 homeys were astonished (but still didn't get the message-see The Magdalene story and the alabaster vessel).

v. dan miller
2012-09-23 8:40 AM

I am glad to know that the REVIEW will open its pages to "THE" discussion.

Elaine Nelson
2012-09-23 2:04 PM

The editors choose the comments to be published.

Ervin Taylor
2012-09-23 4:08 PM

It will be interesting to see how many of the individuals whose materials are printed in the Adventist Review will be card-carrying members of the Adventist Theological Society.   They can be counted on to support the current party line of the GC administration and write articles that will affirm traditional views.

Kevin Riley
2012-09-24 8:43 AM

I thought quite a few ATS members had already spoken/written in support of women's ordination.  This seems to be one of a very few issues where the usual conservative/liberal divide does not operate

Nathan Schilt
2012-09-24 1:42 AM

I'm pretty skeptical. If I were running the Review, I would look at the letter writers to see if they are subscribers. I think its a safe bet that most loyal readers and subscribers to the Review are anti-women's ordination. So I think it is highly likely that the die is cast, not so much because our institutional magazine wants to stack the deck, as because the readership is already stacked against WO. And the Review will honestly reflect that reality. It sure isn't going to alienate its readership by publishing letters that are stuffed into its mailbox by non-subscribers.

Stephen Ferguson
2012-09-24 4:03 AM

Didn't something like this happen in communist Soviet Union and then communist China?  Something about a thousand flowering ideas, and then came the Cultural Revolution?  Or perhaps 1984 would be a better analogy?

Elaine Nelson
2012-09-24 11:45 AM

With such a small number of subscribers, it is safe to say that most are older,
 and conservative judging by the first group of letters received.

Those attracted to AToday and its sister publication Spectrum are not at all typical of the SDA membership worldwide.  Few pay much attention to doctrinal discussions and simply go on about their daily lives.  I doubt that a large number are even aware that WO has been a "hot" topic in some SDA circles.


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